All-Star Cheer Extreme Questions And Answers From Courtney

[cupieqt]

from being in the stands during awards at CHEERSPORT I got to talk to a cea family. They told me Holden ray was on 3 teams. I'm not a member of that gym so if that's hear say or fact I have no idea. But if a fact 3 teams is alot. They said all the boys were required to double team sometimes triple team.

We recently competed with a gym that had a kid crossing to 4 teams. I thought the rule was no more than 3? I know this kid in particular competed L2, 3, 4 and 5. I use crossovers to fill out teams so I'm not crossover bashing but I do dislike it for sandbagging purposes and L5's competing on L2 teams seems like sandbagging. I'm sure it was probably bc of injuries/illness but I also think another L2 or 3 athlete probably could have been found. I don't know the full story behind it all though so there may be valid reasons, it's just the perception of sandbagging is there.

 

[as1rico]

wait..Im confused...there are other payment besides per athlete to EP or Varsity event?

Varsity Family Plan Requirements




it is right on the varsity web-site....it is strictly how much you spend , as long as you follow the 4 events by 3 different EP's you qualify, has nothing to do with # of teams/athletes/crossovers

 

[MomOf2ThatsMe]

I will say that in NC, yes, virtually all gyms utilize crossovers. I can't think of a gym that doesn't use them. My daughter's J2 team is almost 40% C/O, some coming from mini 2 and a couple non-tumblers going to senior 3.

 

[TXcheermom]

We recently competed with a gym that had a kid crossing to 4 teams. I thought the rule was no more than 3? I know this kid in particular competed L2, 3, 4 and 5. I use crossovers to fill out teams so I'm not crossover bashing but I do dislike it for sandbagging purposes and L5's competing on L2 teams seems like sandbagging. I'm sure it was probably bc of injuries/illness but I also think another L2 or 3 athlete probably could have been found. I don't know the full story behind it all though so there may be valid reasons, it's just the perception of sandbagging is there.

The boy I had heard about at CHEERSPORT I was told did 2 level 5s and a level 3.....

 

[BallSoHard13]

wait..Im confused...there are other payment besides per athlete to EP or Varsity event?

what does EP mean?

 

[JerricaLynn]

cheergirl412 - Event Producer

 

[BallSoHard13]

cheergirl412 - Event Producer

thank you

 

[Xtremegirls:)]

from being in the stands during awards at CHEERSPORT I got to talk to a cea family. They told me Holden ray was on 3 teams. I'm not a member of that gym so if that's hear say or fact I have no idea. But if a fact 3 teams is alot. They said all the boys were required to double team sometimes triple team.

Holden is on 2 teams. Junior coed 5 and coed elite. I think he may have filled in for an athlete on medium coed this past weekend though

 

[megaflipper]

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4-3 Guidelines

 

[Ceacoach]

We are taking 196 kids to worlds. 176 on a paid bid. 14
total athletes were on the mat for two bid winning teams. 10 of those crossed all season to medium coed for reasons already explained. 2 of those were on both medium ag and small seniors in Indy when medium won the bid (one was actually a medium all girl athlete competing on small seniors last minute). 1 had to be on both coed elite and SE just for NCA so that SJX would not exceed the 5 crossover limit. The last flies center on IOC is a super senior
And a poweful leader who bases on sr elite. We used a total of 6 crossovers on all our level 5's at NCA.

I would not be able to speak knowledgeably on the exact use of crossovers from other big gyms except to
say it is quite common on the
East coast. Reasons not to include economic hindrance, multiple practice night's and coaching conflicts. Those hindrances do not adversely effect CEA because of team coaching style and standard once a week practice policy. Specific to world's teams the 6

 

[BowsnBling]

Ceacoach : Even though some may be against your crossover policy, I applaud you for being to have and train 196 Level 5 athletes in your program. That achievement alone shows that you know what works for your athletes and program.

 

[Ceacoach]

.. The 6 major worlds teams are designed to not utilize crossovers in anyway. The developmental medium coed team
Is set up much like a JV coach prepares an athlete for Varsity while simultaneously giving kids who really want to continue to compete on two teams that opportunity. No one won three bids, Holden ray was not on medium coed in DC and yes I would consider our program one big family our staff rotates all around the state to offer the best instruction possible with a variety of talented coaches. Building a mega team is not tempting. We like to think that we teach more than we assemble and we pride ourselves on being nationally competitive in multiple level 5 divisions. Something I have learned fro
The outside by observing your Cheer Athletics model.. On any given Sunday even the most talented team
Can have an off day and wewould never put all our eggs in one basket.

 

[tumbleyoda]

How many crossovers from regular Worlds teams were on the IOC 5 team that won the partial bid at the Cheer Nationals Opryland? If I missed this in your explanation, I am sorry.

Do you think in the future EP's should be more cautious as to who they give At Large bids to seeing that they lose that representation at Worlds if they upgrade a bid? If it is highly possible that teams will upgrade, should they pass them over in favor of a team that will actually be grateful for and use the at large bid?

 

[BlueCat]

Thank you for taking the time to answer the questions asked here. As always, open communication can put to rest many rumors and accusations.

It is always interesting to me to note how different the "major" programs can be from each other in their styles and the way they do things. Major differences in philosophy, strategy, and coaching styles can all lead to successful results and happy athletes. The is no single "right" answer and we can all learn from each other.

 

[Mclovin]

We have 98(??) athletes going to worlds and we used 0 crossovers to obtain those bids. Just wanted to put that out there...

Ceacoach you stated "Building a mega team is not tempting. We like to think that we teach more than we assemble". However, did you not have a special "tryout" for your junior 5 team that was going to represent your gym at NCA? I'm not certain about this season, but even athletes and parents from within your program talked about that very thing happening in 2011. I'm not trying to cause drama, just trying to figure out exactly where it is you stand on this particular topic. I'm a little confused because I thought it was widely known and advertised by CEA families that you build a "mega team" for NCA. At least for the junior division anyway.