All-Star Gym Charging Too Much?

[ARajamin]

So they're keeping $156 a kid for what? Rent and utilities on the building? What else do they cover out of their $156 a girl?

They say that they are charging $45 and $185 for cheer. They provide the girls with 1 tumbling coach for that hour however he doesn't really speak English (but is a great coach) and the girls are all at very different levels so I have to stay to help him coach tumbling (I know he only gets $20 out of that $45)... I get 40% of the $185. They say that they get the rest because they provide the space and lights. So yes, utilities. hahaha. They do not cover anything else. (They don't even have AC so I have no idea how utilities are so high).

I want out of this gym so bad, but this area is so saturated that there are no other gymnastics facilities around that don't have cheer teams...

 

[mstealtoyou]

I run the cheer team as a 1099 "contractor" the girls pay the gym... But I do own all of the rights to the team. I have no idea why they wanted to do it this way.... I try to keep ALL other costs SUPER low because they are already paying an arm and a leg so no I don't charge for choreo and I researched uniform companies for roughly 9 months to find one that low with a good quality...

We are competing roughly 1-3 times a month between October and April but only one is traveling (all others are within a 2 hour drive of here).

Here is the fee breakdown:

$230- tuition: 1 hour of tumbling and 8 hours of practice
$45- each add. tumbling class (optional)
$110- Uniform
$55-shoes
$400- App. comp fees for the season (we fundraise for this)
(practice clothes they just had to provide me with the tanks, sports bras, and shorts plus $10, and everytime they need a new bow for performances I charge about $5)
$25- Custom cheer bags that I made for them
$6- Stunt strap (they bought these themselves)
$5- ankle weights (they bought these themselves)
$10- Comp Bow (which I also made)
$10- Money to buy a supply of athletic tape
$5- supply of hair ties (because they are always stealing mine)

So what you're saying to your customer's and your gym owner is that your time isn't "worth" anything!! You shouldn't be doing all this and not be properly compensated from your customer's. Why are you letting the gym owner profit handsomely and you're the one stuck trying to sew custom cheer bags for them to save money? It's honorable that you're trying to keep it affordable in the face of such high tuition but I would be asking myself why me and the customer's are the ones trying to make all the compromise's to make it afforadble?

 

[ARajamin]

@ARajamin - I understand now. I think you are doing an awful lot of work and doing a great job keeping costs low! I think the tuition is high. I am not sure that you will be able to change it, but it is far higher than most from what I have seen. Maybe you could change practice to 2 days/week and lower tuition? Good luck with your team!

Thank you. I work full time teaching at a private high school so this is just something I do because I genuinely love the sport. I would gladly do it for simple gas money to get to the gym if it meant we could grow more and the girls could pay less...

I enjoy making bows and doing all of the extra things for the girls, but I do not enjoy the constant harassment from the gym owners about the team not growing.

 

[mstealtoyou]

They say that they are charging $45 and $185 for cheer. They provide the girls with 1 tumbling coach for that hour however he doesn't really speak English (but is a great coach) and the girls are all at very different levels so I have to stay to help him coach tumbling (I know he only gets $20 out of that $45)... I get 40% of the $185. They say that they get the rest because they provide the space and lights. So yes, utilities. hahaha. They do not cover anything else. (They don't even have AC so I have no idea how utilities are so high).

I want out of this gym so bad, but this area is so saturated that there are no other gymnastics facilities around that don't have cheer teams...

Remind me how many kids you have total please?!?!

Sounds like he's taking advantage of you and he has to know it.

 

[ARajamin]

@mstealtoyou I agree... I need to grow a back bone... I'm trying to contact some other all star gyms and see if maybe we can rent space from them for a reasonable price... I know its not usual to rent to another all star team but maybe it will work... I dunno.

Just a heads up I bought the bags sewn (dirt cheap in downtown LA) and put their names, logo, team names, and rhinestones the crap out of the bags before hitting them with glitter spray and adding a bow lol. My husband thinks I'm certifiable but I love the crafty stuff and my two teenage captains do help a lot.

 

[ARajamin]

@mstealtoyou I currently have 10 girls (we had 13 but we just lost 2 more because the cost got to be too much and one because her mom said the owners were rude) oh and I should say that two of the girls cheer for $45/month (just tumbling) because one mom is the team mom and the other girls helps coach tumbling (she's 17 and used to work at a different gymnastics center), although I did have to fight for these two girls and they constantly throw them in my face like I should be paying for them out of pocket.

 

[ARajamin]

Out of the entire team only 1 girl came from the gym, the rest I brought with me or hustled to market for (using flyers that I pay for and a banner that they requested me to have made and they refused to hang)

 

[mstealtoyou]

I'm so sorry you're being taken advantage of!

 

[Cheermom1969]

Not that you need to make me understand the situation, but I'm confused. Are you saying that you personally have an all star team and that you are renting space from a gymnastics gym to have practices and tumbling?

And one thing I want to bring to your attention and please don't be offended but with each of your posts you are giving more and more information to someone who might be able to figure out who you are and where you're from, which can and probably will get back to the gym owner. Just be careful how much indentifying information you put on here. There are many, many people who just read here and don't post. Unless you don't give a hoot if he or she finds out, in which case never mind.

 

[CoachTamara]

Honestly, they probably think it's reasonable. Gymnastics tuition is a lot more due to being the gym for many more hours than cheer... For cheer, you simply don't need 8 hours a week. We did 4 hours of practice and one hour of tumbling and had tons of success... Could you reduce the cost by reducing hours? If they are on an age and level appropriate team, practice should be spent cleaning up skills, new stunts, and doing routines, not getting skills. That's what tumbling is for.


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[Dixie]

@ARajamin are the girls covered under the gymnastics programs insurance? I would hate that to come back to bite you when you're not making enough to justify working for them.


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[darlingsmomx4]

I run the cheer team as a 1099 "contractor" the girls pay the gym... But I do own all of the rights to the team. I have no idea why they wanted to do it this way.... I try to keep ALL other costs SUPER low because they are already paying an arm and a leg so no I don't charge for choreo and I researched uniform companies for roughly 9 months to find one that low with a good quality...

We are competing roughly 1-3 times a month between October and April but only one is traveling (all others are within a 2 hour drive of here).

Here is the fee breakdown:

$230- tuition: 1 hour of tumbling and 8 hours of practice
$45- each add. tumbling class (optional)
$110- Uniform
$55-shoes
$400- App. comp fees for the season (we fundraise for this)
(practice clothes they just had to provide me with the tanks, sports bras, and shorts plus $10, and everytime they need a new bow for performances I charge about $5)
$25- Custom cheer bags that I made for them
$6- Stunt strap (they bought these themselves)
$5- ankle weights (they bought these themselves)
$10- Comp Bow (which I also made)
$10- Money to buy a supply of athletic tape
$5- supply of hair ties (because they are always stealing mine)

I actually think then that these costs are fine since you are getting 8 hours of practice and the hour of tumbling and the uniforms are a steal.

 

[Cheer Dad]

I actually think then that these costs are fine since you are getting 8 hours of practice and the hour of tumbling and the uniforms are a steal.

That would be because the coach (OP) is overworked and underpaid. In short she is being taken advantage of.


Please send more money

 

[FlexyTumblerMom]

10? You get two months off?

There actually does seem to be a month or two off after the end of the season for the prep for tryouts, then tryouts, then waiting for results, etc. Seems like most payment plans though are for 10 months, not a full 12, cause those breather months are used to set up the new teams for the next season. Everyone is still at the gym working though, just payments aren't the regular installments - if that makes sense?

 

[dawgshow]

That's nice. We have 1 month "off"