All-Star Large Senior Breakdowns

[Deleted member 1556]

Reading this thread I assume people think CEA is going to stand pat with the routine you saw earlier. I don't know about the others and how much they will change, but the other routines were certainly noticed by our staff and the relatively basic routine you have seen to date is evolving for SE. Also, you may count the numbers you saw in the earlier routine for SE, but they are watered down. Goodness, Edith decided to throw her standing full and double this weekend after breaking her leg, twice in 8 months. Think that motivated the others holding back on their skills? It looks to me like the three teams (I have not seen the others in the division) are off to a good start, but don't hold your breath on thinking what you have seen will be what you will see in the future. After this weekend, things will look different, and quite frankly, they are going to have to to win. But we know that, and that is the essence of competition.

the same thing can be said for every team so far. 2010-11 is starting off to be a great season for everyone, and i can't even imagine all the changes we'll se come april for every team

 

[StarshipTrooper]

the same thing can be said for every team so far. 2010-11 is starting off to be a great season for everyone, and i can't even imagine all the changes we'll se come april for every team

That was the spirit of the post. But cheer fans are a fickle lot. I can tell you that the numbers counted for SE are not accurate for what is being thrown in practice and will be thrown moving forward. That said, well get through this next weekend and move on, but I can promise our fans, do not be discouraged by all the hype. We are fine and getting better every practice. We will not be fighting for third behind the other two teams, but will be right in the mix. I think all three teams can hope that they will have routines that if they hit, they can feel they will win. Good stuff.

 

[cheerislove8]

We'll definitely need a recount after JamFest. And at NCA/Cheersport.

 

[Diamond]

Reading this thread I assume people think CEA is going to stand pat with the routine you saw earlier. I don't know about the others and how much they will change, but the other routines were certainly noticed by our staff and the relatively basic routine you have seen to date is evolving for SE. Also, you may count the numbers you saw in the earlier routine for SE, but they are watered down. Goodness, Edith decided to throw her standing full and double this weekend after breaking her leg, twice in 8 months. Think that motivated the others holding back on their skills? It looks to me like the three teams (I have not seen the others in the division) are off to a good start, but don't hold your breath on thinking what you have seen will be what you will see in the future. After this weekend, things will look different, and quite frankly, they are going to have to to win. But we know that, and that is the essence of competition.

I feel like Cea/cea fans always have an excuse for everything. No team in any division competes the same routine from the 1st comp the whole season. The goal is to progress througout the season. No need to let us know senior elite's routine will change. That is obvious.

 

[wcdad]

After Jamfest, will be when the debates on the teams can ultimately be done as what could be argued 4 of the top 6 teams will go head to head on the floor. No one is assuming CEA is not going to do anything but evolve. I think where people are commenting on is the statements like "why fix what is not broken", or "last year on roids". No one should be able to use the term watered down at that point, as everyone will come loaded with what they think will win. Until then enjoy the Holidays and good luck this weekend to all that are competing

 

[F!ERCE]

Funny note...3 of the large senior teams are dancing to Christina Aguilera.

 

[WCbaby]

SE is dancing to Britney Spears Hit Me baby one more time

 

[PghxCheer2]

I feel like Cea/cea fans always have an excuse for everything. No team in any division competes the same routine from the 1st comp the whole season. The goal is to progress througout the season. No need to let us know senior elite's routine will change. That is obvious.

Obviously you haven't read the whole thread, because I've seen at least 3 other posts referring to the fact that F5 or Stars skills were watered down. Before you start pointing fingers make sure your hands are clean.

Now for my two cents. I think all too many of you are forgetting that there is no section that says "evolution of routine from last year". Whether you want to believe it or not, CEA is throwing skills very comparative to Stars and F5. The score sheet doesn't care if they used the same set up as last year. Nor should a judge if they're doing their job right. I know you may thing I'm just trying to defend them since I'm a fan, but anybody who has even for a second counted them out hasn't been following this division well enough. We're talking about a team that dropped a stunt last year and had a tumbling error and STILL beat the other two. One of which threw a very very good routine. If I remember correctly, they were FOURTEEN POINTS ahead of stars last year after day one. They didn't need to progress as much as the other two. Everyone needs to respect that all three will be giving each other a run for their money. Nobody's gonna get an easy ride, it will be anything but probably. Whoever wins this year will probably be more deserving than ever because I don't think I've ever seen the large senior division so close. All the large senior teams have looked absolutely amazing for their debut performances, hopefully that's foreshadowing for what the rest of the season and worlds will look like. Congrats to F5, CEA, FCA, Stars, Fame, and Tsunami! All of you guys look great this season!

 

[divagirl]

I completely agree with this, however, don't forget the entertainment value. And frankly, I'd rather watch a brand new show than a rerun any day. JMO

 

[blunchin]

i don't thin anyone is counting cea out of the running for the golden globe however we have to remember that everyone has seen cea's routine since october. f5 and world cup's routines are brand new to everyone so of course they're going to be talked about.

 

[cheeeeeeeeeer]

Totals, comparatively for anyone who's wondering...

Standing Tumbling

1. WCSS (13 ending in doubles, 21 ending in fulls total, 1 not straight thru)
2. F5 (7 ending in doubles, 31 ending in fulls, 5 not straight thru)
3. CEA (8 ending in doubles, 20 ending in fulls, 3 not straight thru)


Running Tumbling (was really surprised after I totalled this)

1. WCSS (26 ending in doubles, 3 ending in fulls (+1 tuck which I assume is usually a full), 9 specialty to double, 2 specialty to full)
2. F5 (14 ending in doubles, 8 ending in fulls, 13 specialty to doubles, 4 specialty to full)
3. CEA (17 ending in doubles, 8 ending in fulls, 9 specialty to doubles, 2 specialty to full)


Partner Stunts:

1. CEA (8 heel stretches, 8 cross leg to stretch to stretch tick tocks, 8 1.25 ups to quickly pulled scorp? Scale, 1 360 Ball to Stretch to Wrapraround Stretch Ticktock, Tick Tock to Stretch to Scale Tick Tock, 2 Wraparound stretches, Tick Tock to Stretch to Scale Ticktock, 9 scale, scorps. 7 body positions hit as a whole team)
2. F5 (5 half up dangle to lib switch ups, 4 stretch to stretch tick tocks, 5 high to high lib to front stretch tick tocks, 9 bow n arrows, 9 1.25, 4 straight up stretches, 5 lib to stretch switch ups. 5 body positions hit as a whole team)
3. WCSS (9 lib to stretch, 9 1.25 ups to stretch, 6 twisting star release things, 1 1.5 up to front stretch, 3 straight up heel stretches, 7 lib to stretch switchups. 3 body positions hit as whole team (4 if you count the heel stretches during tumbling))


Baskets:

1. CEA (6 switch kick doubles, 2 kick doubles. 7 synced. It appeared these were the numbers in the Showcase video)
2. WCSS (9 kick doubles, 1 Ball Twist X Twist?? (something like that) basket, 1 pike out basket, 2 pretty girl kicks. Kick doubles synced.)
3. F5 (9 kick doubles, 2 pike baskets. Not synced.)
* I think F5 has WCSS in technique (or atleast it looks like it from the super fuzzy video), but WCSS has F5 with the synchronization)


Pyramid:

1. CEA
2. F5
3. WCSS


Jumps:

1. WCSS (36 hurdler, hurdlers, 36 triple toe backs)
2. F5 (34 hurdler, toe, pike backs)
3. CEA (26 triple toe backs)

CEA isn't as "far behind" as most people are making them out to be. WCSS has INSANE tumbling! F5's stunting is, IMO, very close to being even with CEA's. I looooove Large Senior. This seasons gonna be crazy.

the girl behind maddie just goes straight up

 

[samantha says]

I feel CEA's routine was extremely predictable... I mean... ()... It's just the same routine with better skills. F5, however, shocked me. I absolutely loved watching them. I think Ernie and Jeff have only helped make this team stronger and maybe these decorated coaches are exactly what the Twisters needed. Even if they aren't the reason F5 and all the Twisters teams are looking so strong... It certainly doesn't hurt.

 

[blunchin]

Funny note...3 of the large senior teams are dancing to Christina Aguilera.

four actually. woodlands and tsunami both dance to the same song. world cup and f5 then dance to different christina songs

 

[cheerislove8]

I completely agree with this, however, don't forget the entertainment value. And frankly, I'd rather watch a brand new show than a rerun any day. JMO

Just as PghxCheer2 JUST said, a judge doesn't (or at least SHOULDN'T) base their scores on how a team has changed from last year. It's a new season, new routine, so new scores.

 

[F!ERCE]

four actually. woodlands and tsunami both dance to the same song. world cup and f5 then dance to different christina songs

Oooh, forgot about Woodlands. Thanks