All-Star Dangers Of Cheerlebrity

StarshipTrooper said:

Totally disagree. The education is their future. Period. Cheer should be a extra curricular activity that in no way takes any time and effort from their education.

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Agreed. Until cheer starts giving full scholarships its fun.

StarshipTrooper said:

Totally disagree. The education is their future. Period. Cheer should be a extra curricular activity that in no way takes any time and effort from their education.

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Sorry. It is their cheer future.

David said:

Allstar isn't as innovative as you think. There isn't one thing going on I haven't already seen. The best elite coed stunters do drastically different and drastically harder stunts than any group on an allstar team. A group doing a double up pull through to stretch will never be as impressive as a coed couple doing it completely unassisted.

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For you. I find the all-girl stunt more impressive.

socratesofcheer said:

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But a group throwing around a 75lb is impressive? I only weigh 195 and I never had a partner under 105lbs. Are their 85lb girls in college cheer? Yes. But the majority are right at 100lbs or more.

StarshipTrooper said:

Totally disagree. The education is their future. Period. Cheer should be a extra curricular activity that in no way takes any time and effort from their education.

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I don't believe there is nearly that clear a separation from classroom learning and the lessons you get from "extra-curricular" activities. There is not a black-and-white distinction there. It also varies from person-to-person. I will certainly agree that there needs to be careful attention paid to the balance between the two.

David said:

But a group throwing around a 75lb is impressive? I only weigh 195 and I never had a partner under 105lbs. Are their 85lb girls in college cheer? Yes. But the majority are right at 100lbs or more.

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David, you're continuously starting fights in this thread that have nothing to do with the thread topic... if you want to have a discussion about college cheer vs all star cheer or whatever your rambling on about now, I would advise you to start a new thread so we can all ignore you there.

CheerMom3285 said:

David, you're continuously starting fights in this thread that have nothing to do with the thread topic... if you want to have a discussion about college cheer vs all star cheer or whatever your rambling on about now, I would advise you to start a new thread so we can all ignore you there.

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I am only responding to what other people have said. I haven't started any arguments I have only discussed issues back and forth with other people. If you don't like what you're reading you can go away. Not to mention the quote you're replying to was my response to what someone else came in and said. Try again. Either way. I don't care.

I thought about how to state my opinion on this, and i will try to make it as understandable as possible.

There are two worlds: The social media world (not for me, but for many kids out there), and the real world.

On social media like twitter and instagram they follow their role models, their cheerlebrities and these cheerlebrities sometimes comment back, follow back, say things like "Thank you" and "You are amazing, too".
It´s easier in real life, because they log in and have hundreds of notifications they can answer or not.
Sure, it can get ugly on social media, but you don´t have to deal with a person standing in front of you.

So these kids are happy that their role model commented on a pic or answered a pn or whatever and think, they are "friends".
The cheerlebrity kid will have a hard time to remember whom she/he said they are amazing/talented/whatever.

Now when the kids see "their" cheerlebrity at a competition they think they can go there and talk to them and ask for a pic or something else like they "talk" (comment) to them at social media networks.
But it´s not that easy, because there are a lot of them and the cheerlebrity is what every other kid at this competition is in the end:
A kid, there with her/his team mates to compete. An athlete on a team.

I can´t imagine how stressfull it must be for these cheerlebrities being at a competition and not being able to go to the rest room without taking pics and talk to everyone. And yes, i think it can get dangerous. If it would be my child, i won´t let her walk alone for a minute at competitions (how sad must that be). You can´t controll who goes into that arena, and there are many crazy people out there.

Don´t get me wrong: I don´t like this whole cheerlebrity thing. I think it is not good for the kids (the obsessed fans and the cheerlebs), it´s not good for the sport.
And i´m sure many of these athletes (or at least their parents) could and should have prevented the hype around their person.

But like someone mentioned before: Most kids want a role model. They will find someone to look up to and say "I want to be like Suzie Superstar".
And i guess it is not easy to stay behind closed doors and keep away from all this, if you´re an talented athlete and performer on a big name gym.

David said:

I am only responding to what other people have said. I haven't started any arguments I have only discussed issues back and forth with other people. If you don't like what you're reading you can go away. Not to mention the quote you're replying to was my response to what someone else came in and said. Try again. Either way. I don't care.

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Still though, discussions that don't relate to the topic of the thread. Aka how threads get closed.

David said:

Sorry. It is their cheer future.

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You are correct.

CheerMom3285 said:

Still though, discussions that don't relate to the topic of the thread. Aka how threads get closed.

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My original post related exactly to this thread. I can't control if other people go off on tangents.

BlueCat said:

I don't believe there is nearly that clear a separation from classroom learning and the lessons you get from "extra-curricular" activities. There is not a black-and-white distinction there. It also varies from person-to-person. I will certainly agree that there needs to be careful attention paid to the balance between the two.

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I understand there is nuance. That said I really believe the lessons of life that you get from cheer are more a pre college experience. All Star is at it's best when it is keeping youngs ones busy, in shape and learning the lessons of life and competition. If mine had never cheered all star, I may agree with you, so there is a point there, but by the time they are in college those lessons should have been learned. If not, cheer away in college but never at the expense of your commitment to the classroom.

David said:

I am only responding to what other people have said. I haven't started any arguments I have only discussed issues back and forth with other people. If you don't like what you're reading you can go away. Not to mention the quote you're replying to was my response to what someone else came in and said. Try again. Either way. I don't care.

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Elite college stunts are difficult to perform. "Cheerlebrity" is a silly trend. College cheer should probably be more popular than it is. No one is saying you are wrong on any of that.

If you come in to an all star thread and start putting down the sport, prepare for people not to like it. I am assuming you enjoy the back-and-forth, but please stay on topic or start another thread.

BlueCat said:

Elite college stunts are difficult to perform. "Cheerlebrity" is a silly trend. College cheer should probably be more popular than it is. No one is saying you are wrong on any of that.

If you come in to an all star thread and start putting down the sport, prepare for people not to like it. I am assuming you enjoy the back-and-forth, but please stay on topic or start another thread.

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I have been staying on topic. I didn't bring up college cheerleading or stunting or the size of the girls. I was only responding to what other people said. I did not put down allstar cheer at all.

So I know I'm going to get flack for this.. but here goes anyway.

This whole cheerlebrity thing has gotten entirely out of hand, but I know that a lot of them have brought it upon themselves. I'm not talking about Matt or anyone at cheer athletics but there are people who I will not name who are constantly trying to get more followers on twitter, instagram, etc. They have contests to get more followers, always begging for shoutouts, you know what I mean. They are obsessed with the attention but they don't realize how far it can be taken. The people who do this need to realize what they are bringing upon themselves when they seek out "cheerlebrity" status.