All-Star Closer To Being A College Sport?

[BlueCat]

http://www.petfinder.com/for-shelters/comparison-nonprofit-organizations.html

I believe there are some untruths floating around about the differences between the two types of organizations.

 

[King]

http://usacheer.net/Content.aspx/AboutUs


So USA Cheer is the 6 one. Which means what exactly?

 

[King]

In my deep research that has taken all of 5 minutes and google I found USA football, USA gymnastics, Usta (tennis), and us soccer are all 501 c 3.

I'm still not sure what that means though. Are there any governing bodies that are c 6? I'm looking for em.

 

[SharkDad]

http://www.petfinder.com/for-shelters/comparison-nonprofit-organizations.html

I believe there are some untruths floating around about the differences between the two types of organizations.

@BlueCat I'm a little surprised at you. . .pet finder as a source?

Here is all the IRS info you never wanted to know regarding amateur sports organizations. What I got out of this: a sports national governing body should be a 501(c)3 and follow all the applicable rules. Anyone with more tax expertise please set this straight if I am wrong.

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-026.html

 

[cheersafety]

USA Cheer is set up as a state 501c6 in the state of Texas but is not registered with the IRS at this time.

Here is an example: NFL is a federal 501c6 vs USA Football which is a federal 501c3

 

[King]

USA Cheer is set up as a state 501c6 in the state of Texas but is not registered with the IRS at this time.

Here is an example: NFL is a federal 501c6 vs USA Football which is a federal 501c3

So in laymens terms what's the difference? The NFL is a blank while USA football is a blank.

 

[cheersafety]

@BlueCat I'm a little surprised at you. . .pet finder as a source?

Here is all the IRS info you never wanted to know regarding amateur sports organizations. What I got out of this: a sports national governing body should be a 501(c)3 and follow all the applicable rules. Anyone with more tax expertise please set this straight if I am wrong.

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-026.html

I am not a lawyer and I am not giving legal advice, but yes you are correct.

 

[King]

Ok, but if we aren't a sport than it doesn't matter if USA cheer or the USASF is not a 501 c 3?

 

[cheersafety]

Ok, but if we aren't a sport than it doesn't matter if USA cheer or the USASF is not a 501 c 3?

All of this is in discussion of a sport governing body. An activity doesn't have the same regulations so if cheer were to stay an activity or performing art as described in the federal trial ,a 501c3 governing body is not required.

 

[cheersafety]

So in laymens terms what's the difference? The NFL is a blank while USA football is a blank.

NFL is a sport organization of franchises working toward a goal mutually beneficial to the members.
USA Football is a non-profit for the greater good of football for all participants and has no allegiance to any one group, business or person.

 

[King]

What's the relationship between USA football and the NFL?

 

[BlueCat]

@BlueCat I'm a little surprised at you. . .pet finder as a source?

Here is all the IRS info you never wanted to know regarding amateur sports organizations. What I got out of this: a sports national governing body should be a 501(c)3 and follow all the applicable rules. Anyone with more tax expertise please set this straight if I am wrong.

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-026.html

Fine, I was going for simplicity and using the chart they provided. I'll go the complicated route this time.

requirements to be 501 C 3 if you are an "athletic organization"

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p557.pdf p 28

Amateur Athletic Organizations
There are two types of amateur athletic organizations that can qualify for tax-exempt status. The first type is an organization that fosters national or international amateur sports competition but only if none of its activities involve providing athletic facilities or equipment. The second type is a [COLOR=rgb(0.000000%, 30.814001%, 99.400002%)]Qualified amateur sports organization. [/COLOR](discussed below). The difference is that a qualified amateur sports organization can provide athletic facilities and equipment.

Donations to either type of amateur athletic organization are deductible as charitable contri- butions on the donor’s federal income tax return. However, no deduction is allowed if there is a direct personal benefit to the donor or any other person other than the organization.
Qualified amateur sports organization. An organization will be a qualified amateur sports organization if it is organized and operated:
1. Exclusively to foster national or international amateur sports competition, and
2. Primarily to conduct national or international competition in sports or to support and develop amateur athletes for that competition.
The organization’s membership can be local or regional in nature.

More specifically

The following factors may be relevant in determining whether an organization fosters national or international competition:

1. Is the sport the organization supports an event in the Olympic or Pan-American Games?
2. Are the athletes the organization supports in the age group from which Olympic-quality athletes are usually chosen?
3. Are the athletes of a caliber that makes them serious contenders for the Olympic or Pan-American Games?
4. Do the athletes demonstrate a certain level of talent and achievement in order to receive support from the organization?
5. Does the organization provide intensive, daily training, as opposed to sponsoring weekend events that are open to and attract a broad range of competitors?
6. Is the organization devoted to improving the performance of a small group of outstanding athletes or does it emphasize the improvement in health of the general public?
7. Is the organization a member of the United States Olympic Committee?

All Star Cheer does not currently meet those criteria. (Hence USASF would not be eligible under Ch 3)

Chapter 6 more accurately describes USASF's stated purpose. They are promoting the all star industry as whole, not specifically Worlds.

501 C 6 - http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p557.pdf page 47

Line of business. This term generally refers either to an entire industry or to all components of an industry within a geographic area. It does not include a group composed of businesses that market a particular brand within an industry.

Please note the last sentence, which makes USASF unable to specifically promote Varsity Brands.

 

[cheersafety]

What's the relationship between USA football and the NFL?

Just my opinion....USA Football is a non-profit in the same industry as the NFL so they worked together. The NFL supports USA Football in a variety of ways, but Roger Goodell certainly isn't the President of USA Football. On the other hand, it would be very naive to say the NFL doesn't have influence over them.

When I met with the NFL about safety one the first questions was, "Are you in touch with USA Football?".

 

[cheersafety]

Fine, I was going for simplicity and using the chart they provided. I'll go the complicated route this time.

requirements to be 501 C 3 if you are an "athletic organization"

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p557.pdf p 28

More specifically

All Star Cheer does not currently meet those criteria. (Hence USASF would not be eligible under Ch 3)

Chapter 6 more accurately describes USASF's stated purpose. They are promoting the all star industry as whole, not specifically Worlds.

501 C 6 - http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p557.pdf page 47

Please note the last sentence, which makes USASF unable to specifically promote Varsity Brands.

So how does USASF NOT promote Varsity if USASF promotes the Cheerleading Worlds and Varsity owns the name/trademark?

 

[King]

Fine, I was going for simplicity and using the chart they provided. I'll go the complicated route this time.

requirements to be 501 C 3 if you are an "athletic organization"

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p557.pdf p 28



More specifically



All Star Cheer does not currently meet those criteria. (Hence USASF would not be eligible under Ch 3)

Chapter 6 more accurately describes USASF's stated purpose. They are promoting the all star industry as whole, not specifically Worlds.

501 C 6 - http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p557.pdf page 47



Please note the last sentence, which makes USASF unable to specifically promote Varsity Brands.

Which is fine, but if USA cheer is trying to head a sport then per you explanation they cannot be in charge of the sport STUNT. So will the ncata win by default?

Like a team winning just cause they read the rules better?