All-Star You All Knew This Was Coming!

[carolinagirl823]

Okay I have a question for everyone and I am not trying to start anything I just honestly want opinions on it. Also try to keep the arguing under control. Haha

Okay so shooting stars has 9 stunt groups that go up, but only 8 of them do tick tocks (and I don't imagine this changing because the last bunch of competitions the same group has faked the tick tock). Would this count the same as just having 8 stunt groups go up with all of them doing tick tocks? Basically I am asking if these disguises work on judges.

I think it is an interesting point to bring up since we are talking about CEA disguising tumbling, because WC is kind of doing the same here.

 

[imrichhowboutu]

Okay I have a question for everyone and I am not trying to start anything I just honestly want opinions on it. Also try to keep the arguing under control. Haha

Okay so shooting stars has 9 stunt groups that go up, but only 8 of them do tick tocks (and I don't imagine this changing because the last bunch of competitions the same group has faked the tick tock). Would this count the same as just having 8 stunt groups go up with all of them doing tick tocks? Basically I am asking if these disguises work on judges.

I think it is an interesting point to bring up since we are talking about CEA disguising tumbling, because WC is kind of doing the same here.

All 9 of them are doing the tick tock now. And all 3 in the center do the switch up now. But continue with the hypothetical.

9 stunts still do level 5 elements (ie the double down).
But not all 9 are doing the elite elements in your scenario. So when looking at the different elements you would take into account how many are doing them.

 

[BubbleToes]

F5 also has release moves in their second stunt which has 8 stunts. The # of groups that do it depends on the weekend I think.

Right, and not all 8 do them.

I'm much more visual when it comes to stunting. F5 may score with those stunts, but they are pretty basic and safe for one of these top teams.....imo. I truly believe that if any of the teams not included in these "Big three" did those stunts, it would not be considered so impressive by all of us experts.

 

[BubbleToes]

Not that I want to talk about the next 3 or 4 or 5, because if the top 3 hit i don't think anyone will move up. If they don't hit, then it is a possibility. I am almost positive that FCA is the only team to have beaten anyone in the top 3? 3 years ago at Cheersport, FCA beat CEA when maddie fell. And FCA beat stars this year.

Tsunami beat F5 at Worlds prelims 2010.

 

[LoveOnTop]

I think F5 has way better 'formation and transitions' AND a pyramid than the others. But that's just me.

 

[NJ Coach]

Right, and not all 8 do them.

I'm much more visual when it comes to stunting. F5 may score with those stunts, but they are pretty basic and safe for one of these top teams.....imo. I truly believe that if any of the teams not included in these "Big three" did those stunts, it would not be considered so impressive by all of us experts.

Ball-ups are basic?

It all comes down to that fine line of how much is enough. At some point, you've maxed out and it doesn't matter how much you continue to throw after that point. Let's say that SE maxes out on the first stunt. F5 and Stars need both sequences to max out. All three are maxing out, but just took a different path to get there. One isn't any better than the other. They're still getting the points. In the end, it will be up to the judges which path they prefer.

 

[NJ Coach]

Tsunami beat F5 at Worlds prelims 2010.

But not overall. I think Rich was talking about winning competitions, not just having a higher score on a particular day.

 

[carolinagirl823]

All 9 of them are doing the tick tock now. And all 3 in the center do the switch up now. But continue with the hypothetical.

9 stunts still do level 5 elements (ie the double down).
But not all 9 are doing the elite elements in your scenario. So when looking at the different elements you would take into account how many are doing them.

Okay good I am glad all 9 are doing it now. Haha I think that faked tick tocks are just really awkward to watch. Also since you have the most SS info, what exactly is the 2nd stunt that stars does. Are they ball up stretches or switch ups or something else? I can never tell because I haven't seen them in person this year.

 

[slapclapdip]

The "throne" is owned by CEA until someone beats them...PERIOD!!

 

[BubbleToes]

Ball-ups are basic?

It all comes down to that fine line of how much is enough. At some point, you've maxed out and it doesn't matter how much you continue to throw after that point. Let's say that SE maxes out on the first stunt. F5 and Stars need both sequences to max out. All three are maxing out, but just took a different path to get there. One isn't any better than the other. They're still getting the points. In the end, it will be up to the judges which path they prefer.

How many of them do the ball-ups? All eight? I honestly don't think they'll risk the ball ups at Worlds, but again, just my opinion.

Anyway, as ya'll know, I'm all for Sr Elite, and I still believe that if all three hit....Sr Elite will take it.

But hey.......I'm just a fan, so what do I know!

 

[KRECCheer]

I figured that, but I wanted to discuss some other teams specifically I think Maryland Marlins and Woodlands Elite could come very close to breaking top 3.

I think the Marlins peaked way too early this season.

 

[ECEmylife<3]

I just don't understand where CEA gets all there points...it doesn't make sense to me!

 

[timmis]

How many of them do the ball-ups? All eight? I honestly don't think they'll risk the ball ups at Worlds, but again, just my opinion.

Anyway, as ya'll know, I'm all for Sr Elite, and I still believe that if all three hit....Sr Elite will take it.

But hey.......I'm just a fan, so what do I know!

Why don't you think they would? They risked switch-ups all year, and the ball ups against Stars hit just fine. It wouldn't make sense for them to downgrade.

 

[StarshipTrooper]

Teal Army Headquaters intercepted secret messages from an agent for our nothern adversaries know as Rich. We immediately instructed all teams to meet this week in the new northern outpost of Richmond and drive the SUVs quickly down the Shenandoah to Appomattox, as clearly all is lost and the white flag of surrender must be hoisted. However, our fearless leaders, the Popes, have proclaimed that all is not lost in a Pattonesque display of motivation, 2 seconds were trimmed, and the hopelessly simple and sloppy routine could indeed be resurected in this season of hope to give our beloved team a small chance at success.

See you in Orlando. Pick the team and I'll take SE for a nice dinner of choice, even if we tear every ACL on the squad.

 

[NEliteSteven]

I would score F5's 5 Ball Ups higher than CEA's 3 group specialty stunt. Unless those other 2 do the ball up 360's at Worlds. Tick Tocks are Level 4, Ball Ups are Level 5.