All-Star 2011-13 Usasf Cheer Rules

[BlueCat]

As Les explained this past weekend any assisted tumbling would count as a STUNT and would not be part of their tumbling score. So if you had half the team spot the other half on standing tucks your total standing tumbling score would be ZERO.

There are many NEGATIVE reprocussions for using assisted tumbling in your tumbling section.

The reason this rule was taken out is to ensure teams using creative choreography with one member flipping another or doing other show-ey moves would not incur deductions for assisted tumbling when that was not the intent of the maneuver.

The point, as I understand it, was that anyone who is helping support someone else in the air (spotting a back flip, single based liberties, etc.) will always be considered STUNTS for rules purposes. How event producers SCORE a skill is basically up to them.

The point was not to encourage people to start spotting each others' tumbling, it was to clear up a massively grey area of when something fell under the "assisted tumbling" rules and when it fell under the stunt rules. The differences were not clear. (Think Top Guns double back handspring trick a year ago. Was that a stunt or assisted tumbling?). This basically forces everything into one area for legality purposes and greatly simplifies what was very confusing before.

 

[AcaseA]

But then aren't they either incurring deductions for illegal stunts, or losing points for "really bad" tumbling?

BlueCat wrote a lovely explanation of the rule above which I think answers this.

If you are doing this "stunt" in the dance you most likely won't get points for bad tumbling... cuz it's not in your tumbling section. If you tried to sneak in some spots elsewhere you will more than likely score badly for that section.

And no matter where the assisted tumbling occurs it must follow the inversion rules for that level.

 

[CatsCoach113]

I have a question and it could be in the rules, or somewhere throughout the thread but I honestly don't feel like reading EVERY post in order to find it so I figured I'd ask, and sorry if it is already here somewhere.

My question is about shoes. I it states in the rules Soft-soled shoes must be worn while competing. No dance shoes/boots, and/or gymnastics slippers (or similar) allowed. Shoes must have a solid sole. Well my brother tumbles better barefoot so he went out and bought the shoes that fit to your foot. They ones that look like toe socks. ( I inserted the web link to the shoes if some of you have never seen them before- http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/index.htm) .. He likes them better because they are extremely light, and he says comfortable. They don't look comfy to me lol... Anyways going by the rules these shoes DO HAVE A SOLE, they are not boots, or slippers. but I am hearing that they are illegal at some competitions to compete in. Does anybody know if this is true?!?

 

[Jessica]

I have a question and it could be in the rules, or somewhere throughout the thread but I honestly don't feel like reading EVERY post in order to find it so I figured I'd ask, and sorry if it is already here somewhere.

My question is about shoes. I it states in the rules Soft-soled shoes must be worn while competing. No dance shoes/boots, and/or gymnastics slippers (or similar) allowed. Shoes must have a solid sole. Well my brother tumbles better barefoot so he went out and bought the shoes that fit to your foot. They ones that look like toe socks. ( I inserted the web link to the shoes if some of you have never seen them before- http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/index.htm) .. He likes them better because they are extremely light, and he says comfortable. They don't look comfy to me lol... Anyways going by the rules these shoes DO HAVE A SOLE, they are not boots, or slippers. but I am hearing that they are illegal at some competitions to compete in. Does anybody know if this is true?!?

There was a thread on this a few months back... it was started by ohhhlinds and i think everyone came to the conclusion that they are legal, just gross.

 

[CatsCoach113]

There was a thread on this a few months back... it was started by ohhhlinds and i think everyone came to the conclusion that they are legal, just gross.

I agree!! They are the WEIRDEST, and UGLIEST looking things ever not to mention they are over $100.00 to purchase (which is WAY to much for barely any material) but my brother likes them lol. They actually have them in white with a red strip to match his uniform haha. He is always going to bring his real cheer shoes J.I.C.

 

[Mclovin]

I didn't think those sock shoes had a SOLID sole though. Do they??

 

[SheCheers]

I didn't think those sock shoes had a SOLID sole though. Do they??

my cp owns a pair, they have a rubber sole, with a soft inner lining, it's flexible like a cheer shoe, it's just formed more to the foot, than flat. i don't know how Usasf defines "solid".
i will say, it's solid enough that it's not going to hurt the foot to step on a sharpish pointy rock while wearing them...LOL.

 

[imrichhowboutu]

my cp owns a pair, they have a rubber sole, with a soft inner lining, it's flexible like a cheer shoe, it's just formed more to the foot, than flat. i don't know how Usasf defines "solid".
i will say, it's solid enough that it's not going to hurt the foot to step on a sharpish pointy rock while wearing them...LOL.

solid as in not flimsy? If i can pick it up and shake it and it wiggles, then it isn't solid.

 

[HoneysCoach]

did anyone proof read this thing!

"and really give bad scores for 3 really bad inverted stunt"

Owch!

 

[NJ Coach]

did anyone proof read this thing!

"and really give bad scores for 3 really bad inverted stunt"

Owch!

That part actually made me laugh. I love cheer rules comedy

 

[wcdad]

solid as in not flimsy? If i can pick it up and shake it and it wiggles, then it isn't solid.

Solid as in one piece. There were shoes out there that had a heal and than ball and toes. There is a break between the two at the arch. That is not a solid sole

 

[AndyT_T]

F. Top persons in separate basket tosses may not come in contact with each other.
G. Only a single top person is allowed during a basket toss.

as this even been done? just curious.

One of my teams did this way way waaaay back in the dark ages, but I didnt know any one had tried it recently!

 

[SheCheers]

yeah, they're one piece, but "flimsier" than an nfinity, but not by much. that being said i'm not supporting making them legal...they shouldn't be worn by flyers for sure (IMHO). and they certainly wouldn't protect your foot if it were to be stepped on/landed on.

 

[AerialsAllstars_Ash]

So by the way I'm understanding these new rules is:

One can Tic toc in level 3 as long as it is at prep level or below?

But level 4 we aren't allowed to do tic tics in an extended position?

 

[annauk]

So by the way I'm understanding these new rules is:

One can Tic toc in level 3 as long as it is at prep level or below?

But level 4 we aren't allowed to do tic tics in an extended position?

you'd need to dip below prep level to throw the tick-tock in level 3.

>>>Release moves must start below prep level and must be caught at prep level or below.