It was mess both days not only just before ss5 and sorry but you shouldn't have to wait like a hawk to get an open seat. Nor should you not pee both days for fear of losing your seat!You also have to remember, you cant arrive right before top 10 Small Senior or Right before the large Senior division and expect a front row seat. But trust me, I was waiting like a hawk, for an open seat down below where I actually sat.